Having organized numerous Citizen’s Assemblies it becomes clear that we need more education for people to embrace these processes from higher levels of emotional and cognitive complexity. What we are striving for is flipping the incentive structures of governments. They have to earn the reputation and be held accountable for their actions regularly, rather than just every couple of years.
Towards the end of the conversation Jascha includes concepts of how to change the process structure for the WHO as well as Climate Conferences.